is not buying into the idea you can't pick john kerry because it opens up the senate seat and scott brown wins the senate seat. >> do you like kerry at defense as an idea? >> he's as qualified as anybody if he wants that. i just feel like if you want him for that job and you think he's a good match, don't be scared off by this guy. >> 100% agree. >> if he's the right guy for the job, that's where he belongs. >> i tried to throw steve a life raft so you didn't have to talk about petraeus and you threw me right off. that was the ridiculous segue. any way, next up, we continue our series taking a look at the most pressing issues facing the country. this last conversation not being one of them. today the issue was one that affects every american's wallet. we're talking taxes. >>> they are encouraging customers to shop local. they created lady's night in burbank, california, to boost sales by staying open late. make sure to support your local retailers on november 24th for the small business saturday. for more, watch "your business" on msnbc. [ female announcer ] a classic meatloaf recipe from